Life isn’t always black and white, and sometimes the gray is controversial. This week’s guest firmly believes in staying true to himself,  living by his grandmother’s maxim: “What other people think of you is none of your business.” In this episode, you’ll hear that come to life. When asked to describe himself, he said gratitude, resilience, and enthusiasm. This is a man who now has his own unit of time: Anthony Scaramucci.

Anthony was a successful entrepreneur, financier and political player well before stepping up to the podium as White House Director of Communications in 2017—for 11 days. Reflecting on this trajectory with surprising self-awareness, Anthony shares stories of the people and places that gave him the stomach to make mistakes, move past failure and charge forward, living unapologetically big. 

For Anthony, choosing risk and testing his resilience are central to being alive, not at all contradictory to being a conservative institutionalist. A blue collar-born elite—educationally, socially and financially—Anthony speaks the vernacular of the person he’s talking to. He knows who he is, but he keeps us guessing. He’s a walking dichotomy, a blend of black and white, and he thrives in the gray. 

In this episode, Anthony shares how he loves being an entrepreneur, gains insight from history, loves our country—and firmly believes in the future of digital currency. Listen in to hear his take on the balancing act of life and how people aren’t perfect—so our world won’t be, either. And what would be the fun in that anyway?